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June 7th, 2009
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Skip trying to prove you're not racist

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Date:June 7th, 2009 11:03 pm (UTC)
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It is possible to define racism in such a way that anyone and/or everyone is racist. I cannot see how such a definition is useful for anything.

In some ways it is, and in some ways it isn't. *shrug* Which is largely why many people trying to make a difference on these issues in this community are often using other, not overloaded and triggery terms to move forward with. And part of why "Are you calling me racist?" is such a total derail. It's besides the point, and it's not useful. Is it more important to treasure that word as something that draws a line between you and the bad guys or to keep moving forward from where we are today?

"It's real only because people believe in it, but you can say the same thing about the value of money. Both have a deep impact on how the world works despite the fact that their values are socially constructed."

Specious, Anne. The issue is not money, it is the effect of money (or, more precisely, class).


The comparison is not one I made up. It is made repeatedly in the book Us and Them: Understanding Your Tribal Mind. It seems quite sound to me. Not a total parallel, just a useful illustrative example of something else with a similar sociological basis.

Your response about class is tangential to the point I was making, so I'm going to ignore it. The effects of class are not the same as the effects of giving money a value and then using it in exchange with one another in this thing we call trade. They interact with one another, of course, but your point doesn't disprove the analogy, it just takes it as an opportune moment to derail into another topic.

(your thought experiment also doesn't hold together for me - neither waving of the magic wand causes all that misery to vanish. Because removing prejudice does not remove entrenched social status, employment status, resource distribution and ownership, educational history, drug addictions and medical history, broken families, positions in and out of prison and jail, laws, etc.)
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