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March 9th, 2009
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Because I said I would give more context

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From:veritykindle
Date:March 11th, 2009 02:06 am (UTC)
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my own emotional knee-jerk reactions reduce my already-low tolerance for morasses. I wish I had the emotional detachment to "shut up and listen" (as one white person described her take on her role in this).

Oh, trust me, me, too! I don't want to put myself forward as some sort of model of dealing with this situation, because I'm very much not. I'm a clueless white person, and my knee-jerk reaction is also to look away and not deal with anything I find uncomfortable. And I think that I've only been able to read as much of this debate as I have (which I admit is not all of it) because I've cringed and looked away from so many similar debates in the past, and I've finally seen enough on the subject for some of it to actually stick. (ETA: I'm not saying this because I'm proud of it in any way - I'm saying it because I'm deeply ashamed of myself, and to show that I do understand how tempting it is to hide from what is going on, but I believe that hiding is still the wrong choice.)

There are important things being said! (ETA: And I strongly believe that these issues are important not just for the people involved in the debate, but for everybody who reads science fiction.) The fact that our first reaction is to try to hide from everything that is going and and avoid listening to it is our failure, not the failure of the people leading the discussion.

If you are serious about looking for more interesting posts about race, here is a post I just found that has some of the links I included before, plus a lot more, some of which I haven't read yet either. And, since this current round of RaceFail has certainly not been the first time this subject as come up, this tag has quite a few very useful and interesting Racism 101 for clueless white people posts from previous debates, as well. (ETA: Also, this post that I just found has a very useful summary of events that shows why I so firmly believe that this is primarily a discussion about race that has been purposefully derailed by people not wanting to listen, rather than just another LJ flamewar.)

And, since you mention book recs, there are a lot of very interesting book recommendations showing up in the comments of quite a few of the posts, as well! This post in particular has a treasure-trove of cool recs in the comments, because there are ten pages of comments and the great majority of them include some book recs along with other reactions to events. Apparently, some people are making a spreadsheet of all the book recommendations in that post. I am really looking forward to seeing it, because my sense is that there are literally hundreds of book recs there! :)

(But as I said, I'm hardly an expert on this subject! These are just some links I personally found interesting and thought-provoking, reading from the sidelines as I have.)

ETA: edited to add a few things, and edit a few typos.

Edited at 2009-03-11 05:37 pm (UTC)
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