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February 6th, 2009
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Staying aware of how many of our people are in prison

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From:dd_b
Date:February 6th, 2009 10:19 pm (UTC)
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Okay, but why assume that number? I've heard 90% and higher frequently suggested as the number (don't remember if anybody has actually produced a number based to some extent on real information).

Also, lots of violence is related to the illegality of drugs, some of those people won't have been specifically convicted of drug-law violations, and yet wouldn't be in prison without the WOSD.

Does your barking mad surveillance state contribute to the prison population? I thought I'd seen the police quoted as saying it hasn't helped solve crimes. You probably just need better surveillance cameras, like the ones all the cities and private stores use in the TV shows, where you can expand a license plate out of a corner of the street scene big enough to read.
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From:dd_b
Date:February 6th, 2009 10:21 pm (UTC)
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On the other hand, a stop-the-drug-war outfit at http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/409/toohigh.shtml claims numbers around 50%.
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From:netmouse
Date:February 7th, 2009 04:37 pm (UTC)
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There's also the fact that a single conviction makes it harder to get work, and not being able to get honest work contributes to the tendency to use criminal means to support oneself, and then there are effects of children being raised in single parent or foster homes because their parents are imprisoned and/or, on release, can't get work. Secondary effects of the war on drugs are probably responsible for at least as many convictions as direct drug-related charges.
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