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July 7th, 2006
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Meme: paypal skzbrust $2-$5

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From:(Anonymous)
Date:July 8th, 2006 07:57 pm (UTC)

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"I'm curious, why do you think his values are outdated and wrong? What's your reasoning."


And no answer to the question. A perfectly valid question.

I had hoped for an answer as well.

The info about PayPal, and your interpretations thereof, are fascinating. PayPal is a tangent. Far more interesting is the premise suggesting that your value judgment is somehow not wrong. Opinion is opinion; saying that YOUR values are "right" is yet another opinion.

An equally nebulous truth as my saying that a color is green when another sees it as blue. No matter how many people see green or blue, that is an intensely personal perception. Would you tell someone who is color-blind that his perception is wrong?
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From:netmouse
Date:July 10th, 2006 03:25 am (UTC)

Re: Well?

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Yes, it is a valid question. One I hope to get to soon. I have not stopped talking, just spent some time doing other things.

The whole color-blindness thing is a red herring argument. Perception and values are not the same thing. Perception is colored by values, but values are something we (hopefully) choose to hold. Values are often taught us through a process of socialization and therefor get adopted without examination. This is good in that a society with shared values is more likely to opperate smoothly. This has issues in that man as a social animal tends to confirm in ways that are not always logical or better for society in the long run. Regular examination of value systems and how they compliment current context is important, in my opinion.

Opinion is opinion, yes, and differences of opinion are important things. You have a right to hold your own opinion. You don't have any right to have your opinion be considered correct, or valid. If I disagree with you, I might consider your opinion (and/or values) to be "wrong." That you think you can bully me into backing off from the idea that I might be "right" about something just because my statement is an opinion (hell yes, it is an opinion) is both sad and ridiculous.
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From:netmouse
Date:July 10th, 2006 03:26 am (UTC)

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er, that should be conform, not confirm.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:July 11th, 2006 08:29 pm (UTC)

Re: Well?

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Thank you for your reply.

Why is bullying only you then a bad idea? How peculiar. Bullying anyone is bad.

Much of this whole discussion brought up with SKZB looks like bullying. Which goes back to perception, and so may not necessarily be the case. Everyone sees things differently.
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From:netmouse
Date:July 11th, 2006 10:31 pm (UTC)

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Why is bullying only you then a bad idea? How peculiar. Bullying anyone is bad.

I never said that. People who argue with you about assertions you never made and wouldn't make and don't even believe are annoying. Not Bullying, just tiresome, as they don't follow any standards of logical conversation.

Sorry if the tone of my posts seems bullying. If my comments are high energy it's because I believe in these things fervently. I believe I mentioned my strong beliefs on the subject in the beginning.
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