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July 17th, 2014
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Yay yahoo (not)
As the main email/list administrator for Detcon1, I just started seeing warnings from my list server that it is unsubscribing list members due to excessive bounces. Looking at the bounce messages, I see the bounce is because Yahoo is not accepting the message for policy reasons.

We knew Spam would start to be a real problem, but as with allergies, the biggest problem is when the protective measures misfire.

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From:davidschroth
Date:July 17th, 2014 04:20 pm (UTC)
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As much as I hate to admit it, this issue was discussed ad nauseum on The List That Shall Not Be Named, and the manager of the lists managed to come up with some way of defusing the problem that did *not* (as far as I know) involve unsubscribing from the list people using Yahoo or AOL addresses.
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From:netmouse
Date:July 17th, 2014 04:25 pm (UTC)
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Oh, I'm glad the list manager was able to come up with a good solution. I have not been unsubscribing people, the listserv has been doing that automatically. Because clearly Yahoo didn't not bother to think through the "will-the-automation-inform-the-admin-before-or-after-communication-is-disrupted" link and what is in the best interests of their clients (whom I doubt are being notified when email is not being delivered to them because:policies). They could have decided to automate informing list admins of this new policy and how to avoid being hurt by it *in advance of shutting down delivery* to their clients. But they didn't.
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From:xdaemon
Date:July 18th, 2014 11:27 am (UTC)
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Presuming that the 'list that shall not be named' is what I think it is, that would be me. (I though I felt my name being invoked...)

The real key is to make sure the software is up to date and figure out the new features. That is, unless you're running something antique, in which case I'm not sure there's much to do but change.

Yahoo! and AOL changed the ground rules for mailing lists. Unsubscribing people using those two choices just kicks the can down the road. Google is one of the founding members of the DMARC standards group, they just haven't flipped the switch yet. New versions of the mailing list packages let you deal with the new situation.

What are you running, complete with version number, please?
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From:crazyscot
Date:July 18th, 2014 07:05 am (UTC)
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Is this the Yahoo-breaks-every-mailing-list-in-the-world issue from a couple of months back, or something else...?
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